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At least the surgeons are destroying lives for money.

The activists are destroying lives for clicks.

I'll let you count those rungs.

Edit: why don't you mosey over to Medium and read a few dozen articles by "Queer Kari" and then let's talk again, OK?

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Unless Queer Kari is an ethicist with a really good argument for pre-emptive murder I can't imagine it making a difference. You're mistaken if you think my objection is rooted in sympathy for 'activists' and their positions.

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I understand your objection. try to understand that my vehemence may have cause. Post-emptive.

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All behavior has causes. I'm sure the people telling Jesse to khs felt similarly justified by their beliefs and experiences.

I'm obviously not the comment section police but the more comments of that tenor pop up the fewer people with intelligent, meaningful contributions will bother to post them here. It also makes other people who have grounded concerns about GAC look deranged by association. These just a couple most-relevant-to-me reasons I think others should corral their homicidal fantasies within the privacy of their own brains.

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I have two darling Vietnamese tabbies I rescued from a burlap bag, theyтАЩre worth more to me than all the тАЬtransтАЭ activists in the world.

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The surgeons are providing people with surgery because they truly believe that surgery is best for those people. Most of the time their belief is justified and correct. The activists are also quite sincere in their beliefs.

I find it truly annoying how anti-trans people are so sure of themselves that they literally cannot imagine that their opponents hold different beliefs than they do. They assume their opponents must have some kind of ulterior motive, because they literally cannot comprehend the possibility that someone could believe what they say they do.

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You need to differentiate between those who do not believe people can be trans and those who believe that that diagnosis needs carefully and prolonged assessment (especially for kids who first manifest after age 5).

The long term effects of trans treatment, both hormonal and surgical, are significant and have not been sufficiently studied. If these thoughts are labeled as anti-trans, then then trans community needs to rethink its view of anti-trans.

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Those studies are always shut down by deluges of mail and calls about "transphobia!" and the researchers fired.

Because they know full well that the findings will not be joyous.

There's a reason so many European McGender mills are shutting down.

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There are males who are on hormone blockers as a result of prostate cancer. Could Jesse do a piece describing the health effects of these drugs on those males?

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Look up тАЬLupron side effectsтАЭ - itтАЩs the drug used for both prostate cancer and puberty blocking. Several serious side effects are common, and some very severe side effects are possible.

Interestingly, one of the more common is actually depression.

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"The surgeons are providing people with surgery because they truly believe that surgery is best for those people."

This is a joke, isn't it? Tell me this is a joke. The surgeon who spent half a year repairing the face of a badly burned Afghani boy did it for free. I donated $250 to St. Judes for their work. The 'plasty sculptors are taking $70K per, and that was a few years ago. Yeah, best for those people.

I've known a number of transgender men who were friends I cared about.

The "trans" are not transgender. GID has a childhood onset (average age = 4.5 years); "trans" late-onset is too clearly correlated with social media and contagion. If you believe in it, you need to get a lot better informed.

Employers are discarding r├йsum├йs with pronouns. Go ahead, say they're all "transphobic."

"Opponents." Please.

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I agree about ulterior motives and agree that most people providing GAC are good people. Those who question GAC,--simply questioning it ---are vilified by the activists. "The activists are also quite sincere in their beliefs." So sincere it seems they justify encouraging suicide for someone who merely advocates for robust assessment before shepherding a child into life long medical care. Medical intervention might be the right call for some children, but for most kids gender dysphoria is simply one of the stages involved in recognizing their homosexuality. How is one to know the difference between a truly trans kid and one working through their sexuality other than "watch and wait?" Jesse is simply advocating for robust assessment. That is all. That is rational. That is good treatment.

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Those who respond with rage at even a suggestion of prudent caution are so engaged with this cult that theyтАЩve lost all critical perspective. They are fanatics.

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Thank you for articulating this so clearly. "Chill the F Out" indeed!

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"The surgeons are providing people with surgery because they truly believe that surgery is best for those people." That's mind reading--there are other posssibilities.

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