Nothing changes the fact that a ten-minute screening isn't even perfunctory.
The part that galls me most that I think you should expound on more here is that 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐜𝐜𝐞𝐩𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐟-𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐟 "𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐬" is absolutely outrageous, especially considering the clear role played by "social contagion" and Smile. "A …
Nothing changes the fact that a ten-minute screening isn't even perfunctory.
The part that galls me most that I think you should expound on more here is that 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐜𝐜𝐞𝐩𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐟-𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐟 "𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐬" is absolutely outrageous, especially considering the clear role played by "social contagion" and Smile. "A lot of my friends are trans! Me too!!" That is the worst thing about the DSM5 redefinition. Teen girls are intensely conformist and impressionable and no self-report that opens the gate to such catastrophic intervention should be given any weight whatsoever.
I read about one classroom where seven of 28 girls claimed to be "trans." The odds are that many GID-afflicted girls are lower than the chances of firing a gun in outer space and hitting a dime sixty light years away.
If it were up to child-me, I would've stayed up until midnight and eaten ice cream all day. The entire point of parents is to provide the structure and boundaries that kids are unable to, by definition, provide for themselves. I didn't stop making bad choices until I was at least 26 (and even then...). Moody tweens deserve love and attention, too, but the answer to every single one of their problems can't be "well, they know better!", especially when the solutions to problems are all life-altering drugs and surgery.
The problem with the "tweens make bad choices" argument is that it's symmetrical. You could just as easily argue that tweens who accept their gender identity without questioning it are making a bad choice without thinking it through. Accepting the status quo without thinking about it is sometimes just as bad and life-altering a choice as impulsively changing it. "Tweens make bad choices" is a fully general counterargument that allows you to dismiss any choice a tween makes that you dislike, regardless of what it is.
Since you can't dismiss people's choices with "tweens are dumb " you have to do what Jesse did and actually look at the evidence of what impact choices have long term. What he found, that gender-affirming care is often beneficial, but needs to be considered carefully and with much thought, is far more thoughtful and nuanced.
Jesus. I can’t believe these needs to be said, but yes tweens “accepting their gender identity,” assuming this means not taking exogenous hormones for the rest of their lives, is absolutely the best outcome, and it’s ludicrous to suggest otherwise.
The outcomes are not symmetric - one of them leaves the child sexually and reproductively disabled, dependent on a lifetime of medical and psychological treatment, and one of them does not.
It’s one thing to say “some children may have gender dysphoria that is so persistent and severe that transition is the best option for their well-being”. It’s quite another to say that having and not having gender dysphoria are equally desirable outcomes.
"You could just as easily argue that tweens who accept their gender identity without questioning it are making a bad choice without thinking it through. Accepting the status quo without thinking about it is sometimes just as bad and life-altering a choice as impulsively changing it."
This first sentence makes no sense and has *literally* no basis in science or observed reality and does not in any way prove your point. It also doesn't connect to the the second sentence at all. In general [CITATION NEEDED].
Nothing changes the fact that a ten-minute screening isn't even perfunctory.
The part that galls me most that I think you should expound on more here is that 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐜𝐜𝐞𝐩𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐟-𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐟 "𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐬" is absolutely outrageous, especially considering the clear role played by "social contagion" and Smile. "A lot of my friends are trans! Me too!!" That is the worst thing about the DSM5 redefinition. Teen girls are intensely conformist and impressionable and no self-report that opens the gate to such catastrophic intervention should be given any weight whatsoever.
I read about one classroom where seven of 28 girls claimed to be "trans." The odds are that many GID-afflicted girls are lower than the chances of firing a gun in outer space and hitting a dime sixty light years away.
If it were up to child-me, I would've stayed up until midnight and eaten ice cream all day. The entire point of parents is to provide the structure and boundaries that kids are unable to, by definition, provide for themselves. I didn't stop making bad choices until I was at least 26 (and even then...). Moody tweens deserve love and attention, too, but the answer to every single one of their problems can't be "well, they know better!", especially when the solutions to problems are all life-altering drugs and surgery.
The problem with the "tweens make bad choices" argument is that it's symmetrical. You could just as easily argue that tweens who accept their gender identity without questioning it are making a bad choice without thinking it through. Accepting the status quo without thinking about it is sometimes just as bad and life-altering a choice as impulsively changing it. "Tweens make bad choices" is a fully general counterargument that allows you to dismiss any choice a tween makes that you dislike, regardless of what it is.
Since you can't dismiss people's choices with "tweens are dumb " you have to do what Jesse did and actually look at the evidence of what impact choices have long term. What he found, that gender-affirming care is often beneficial, but needs to be considered carefully and with much thought, is far more thoughtful and nuanced.
Jesus. I can’t believe these needs to be said, but yes tweens “accepting their gender identity,” assuming this means not taking exogenous hormones for the rest of their lives, is absolutely the best outcome, and it’s ludicrous to suggest otherwise.
The outcomes are not symmetric - one of them leaves the child sexually and reproductively disabled, dependent on a lifetime of medical and psychological treatment, and one of them does not.
It’s one thing to say “some children may have gender dysphoria that is so persistent and severe that transition is the best option for their well-being”. It’s quite another to say that having and not having gender dysphoria are equally desirable outcomes.
"You could just as easily argue that tweens who accept their gender identity without questioning it are making a bad choice without thinking it through. Accepting the status quo without thinking about it is sometimes just as bad and life-altering a choice as impulsively changing it."
This first sentence makes no sense and has *literally* no basis in science or observed reality and does not in any way prove your point. It also doesn't connect to the the second sentence at all. In general [CITATION NEEDED].
“ Since you can't dismiss people's choices with "tweens are dumb "
Why can’t we do EXACTY that?
You don’t seem to exactly have a stranglehold on reality here.