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miles.mcstylez's avatar

The groomer thing can be dumb, but can also have some validity especially when schools formalize policies of keeping parents in the dark. "Don't tell your mommy and daddy about our little secret" should never be something adults are saying to children.

That, and some of what passes for "all ages" and/or "family friendly" drag entertainment is pretty raunchy, so if you combine exposing kids to highly sexualized content, and encouraging them to keep secrets from their parents, that adds up to "groomer" not being an entirely inappropriate description. Still gets thrown around too cavalierly, but it's not like it's a total nothingburger; there is some there there.

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Puzzle Therapy's avatar

I think there’s another important angle to consider on why some - please note I said *some* - people go down the unhealthy heterodox rabbit hole: it’s a reaction to feeling betrayed by the people and ideas they invested in or maybe even made sacrifices for. For example, you have always been a very vocally liberal person, one who has donated time and money to Democrat causes, publicly urged and scolded people to “do the right thing,” argued with and even distanced from conservative friends and relatives, and fully supported every policy and talking point even when you had concerns or questions because you believed you were following the science, reading the legitimate news sources, and are on the team that cares about people who have been hurt or are struggling and need compassionate support. But then one day, you find out it’s your son with myocarditis and just talking about it gets you attacked as a dangerous anti-vaxxer, or your teen daughter suddenly the 3rd girl in her friend group demanding a binder and testosterone, the school has been lying to you, and you’re being told by everyone from your liberal friends to the president you fought to get elected that you are a bad mother who must want her child to die if you ask any questions (and a TERF who should be punched in the throat on top of it) or any other situation where real life crashes into ideology. Then you start researching things in legitimate places - like the original research papers - and find that legitimate scientists and journalists- even liberal ones! - have documented *exactly what you are experiencing* and it’s only the “bad, conservative” media outlets that have reported on it. It can feel like a deep betrayal, like your foundation for how you figure out what’s true vs not true has been shaken in a truly frightening way. And All of this is happening while you are in a place of personal/family crisis and your friends and your “people” are turning against you. It can really shake a person up. It’s the perfect set-up for landing in another extreme circle or falling down a rabbit hole.

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